These notes by Rob Foxcroft were written on 28/08/2000 and 27/07/2001.

I have simply tried to make clear the outlines of my own adaptation of the Interactive Focusing form developed by Janet Klein. I've used a slightly different name for the form, simply to emphasize that any revision of Janet's form is my own responsibility, and should not be ascribed to her.

There are 3 key points:-

  1. safety
  2. two phases
  3. the relationship cycle



Let us call the two people A and B.


A1 Story Aspect [for example, 6 minutes]

A2 Double Empathic Moment [eg 8 minutes, 2 for each bit]


[for example, 14 minutes, to balance the A-PHASE]

The B-Phase simply reverses the A-Phase (B1 Story Aspect; B2 Double Empathic Moment) :

NB - Bear in mind throughout that the whole process of Focusing Interactively is intended to be for both people EQUALLY. In this form of Focusing, Listening is seen as being for both people, and Focusing is seen as being for both people. It is wonderful to be listened to, and just as wonderful to be trusted and allowed to listen to another person. Try to avoid any sense that "now it's my turn to get some time".


[eg 12 minutes, 3 for each bit]

In any order:-

This third part of Focusing Interactively is not just an ending step (which you might leave out), but is integral to the form. Here we leave specific content behind, and pay attention to whole people, and the whole relationship. Sometimes, at this point, a deep and healing sense of connection arises between the two people, and a depth of silence together. Sometimes, too, a depth of self- acceptance may well up in one or the other person.


  1. The timings which I have given by way of example vividly point to the interactive nature of the process: out of a 40 minute session, each person gets only 6 minutes for their own issue.
  2. I would strongly urge you not to over-lengthen the A-Phase, which tends to undermine the interactivity;
  3. and I would urge you instead to give enough time to each of the separate pieces of the B-Phase and the Relationship Cycle;
  4. and especially to take time over the Change of Roles, which protects the safety of the process. To avoid confusion, I should mention that, yes, there is a change of roles at the end of the B-Phase too, as each person lets go of the specific content, and brings their attention to persons as a whole.

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